Shortly after Evelynn passed I was determined to see a medium because I wanted to know where my babies were, who they were with, and if they were okay. I never ended up seeing one at that time because when I brought it up to a friend she told me not to, at least not for awhile. This friend had said she had seen a medium before and it was the most amazing yet crazy experience ever. She said the medium knew nothing about her and her family but was spot on about everything at this first visit. Hearing this made me want to see one even more, but just let the idea drop for the time being.
In May of this year one of the women in my uterine rupture group posted about talking with this medium named June Patrick and how awesome the appt was. There was also a comment made by another member of the group who had said she had spoken to a different medium but also had an amazing experience. After reading this I decided it was time for me to finally meet with one myself, so I decided to look into this June Patrick. She had a website that talked all about how "it works" for her and about her life. There were reviews from people that had previously worked with her and also a Facebook page with more info as well. I wanted to believe that their really is some truth to all of this, but was still pretty skeptical.
I decided to make an appt, but couldn't get one until the end of June, which then got rescheduled until July 7th. I was able to get the entire conversation recorded through a conference call number that she gave me so that I could listen to it again later. After that was set up she explained to me how the spirits come to her, whether it be through images they show her, words, and so forth. She also said that with every spirit she likes to ask them questions so that they can try and verify themselves to me so I know who they are and that it really is someone that I know. This first appt didn't go very well, so I was even more skeptical. Pretty much all of the spirits she said that were talking to her were vary vague in what they were saying and how they knew me. Majority of the names she listed were of no one in my family either. About the closest thing she said was when she brought up that their was a man with her named Michael and she was wondering if he was a spouse that had passed. Well I did date a Michael for quite a few years, suppose you could say my first real love, and he died about 6 months after Liam did. She said he died in a car accident, which he did, and that he said that he cares about me. So I left this meeting pretty sad that I wasn't able to get any real answers, especially since I was hoping to get through to my babies. June said that she had never had a reading like mine before and didn't know why the spirits weren't coming through very well. She said she wanted to do another reading with me in about 3-4 weeks, mainly so that she would forger our conversation. We set up another appt., although I was really worried that this is something that she always does and in that 3 weeks she was going to try and research me. She knew my name and the only other thing I had told her was at the end of my appt about how I had hoped she would have reached my babies. It worried me because I have this blog with a lot of info on it about me and my babies, although most people probably don't.
On July 27th I had my second reading with her, and it went way better. It started about the same as the last with the recording and her explaining how everything works. Her doing this made me wonder if she really didn't remember me then since I had known all that from last time. First person that came to her was an older women. She was in a rocking chair and was holding 2 babies. She then asked me if I have had 3 miscarriages, because she is getting this "feeling" like I had. I told her that I haven't really had 3 miscarriages but that I have technically lost 3 babies. She said that there was a boy and girl and that she got the sense that the little boy had died at 6 months of age. I told her that he died at 6 months gestation. She then asked if it was do to something with his head because she was seeing an image of like an opening in the back of his head. Well that's sort of right since Spina Bifida is an opening at some point in the spine and it can cause hydrocephalus in the brain. She then went on to say that Liam said he wanted to stay but he had a purpose to serve first, and that was to help with research. Well I guess the whole Spina Bifida research study had just been done. She told me that the little boy said his name was William but preferred to be called Billy. Hmmm, why doesn't he like to be called Liam? She then went on to say that he was playing with some toys and really wants to have his chance at being a little boy and play with his toys with us. She said she felt pretty certain that he was going to come back to us at some point because he really wants to. She said that he had a little star shaped mark on the right side of his face under his eye as well. She then said that he kept saying 2, which made her believe that we might be having a little boy in 2 years and it will be Liam. I told her that we are having a baby boy in 2 months, so she said that must be what he meant and told us to look at his right eye and if he has that same mark it will show us Liam is back. Wouldn't it be crazy if Max has this little mark under his eye? I would freak out! She also mentioned something about cleft palette, but I am hoping she only said that because that can be a sign of Spina Bifida.
June asked that lady holding the babies again to give us some more info about herself so that we know who she was. She was an older women, like a grandmother to them. She kept showing the Medium pics of a what she thought looked like an nursing home but that she was concentrating on the nurses, so she didn't know if she was trying to say she was a nurse or worked with the elderly. She had this sense that this women was on my mothers side, possibly her mother. She said the women said that she died of "congenital heart failure" or something like that, she couldn't really understand her. Well my moms mom died of a massive heart attack. Then the women through out the name Laura or Lori, she wasn't quite sure. My moms mom was Lola and my dads mom was Lucretia-which could be pretty hard to interpret I suppose. She then got an image of what looked like a NICU setting. It was hard for me to make sense of a lot of things since I don't know much about my grandparents, especially the grandmas because they died when I was really young. But then she says the name Gene, and asked about it maybe being a middle name, like Laura Jean. Then it clicked for me that my dads sister is Lori and she is a NICU nurse and my dad and Lori's brother is Gene. They are both living and June did say that the spirits will give names of the living to help show who they are. I am a little confused by this though because if this was my moms mom why did she give me names of my dads brother and sister???
She then moved onto to the little girl. Right away she asked if I knew an Evelynn. I almost cried when I heard her say that. She said she was very shy, was latched on tightly to Liam, and she continuosly sucked her thumb while holding a blanket in that same hand. Evelynn apparently showed her a 5 and June wondered if there was some significance to it, like maybe if Evelynn died when she was 5, or the month of May. Evelynn and Liam were both buried in May. She then said Evelynn said something about April, which of course is the month she was born and died. When she asked Evelynn how she died June said she felt like she got a blow to the stomach and wondered if Evelynn died from a stomach issue. My uterus rupturing was definitely like a couple of good blows to the stomach alright. She tried to ask her some more questions but I guess Evelynn just kept trying to hide behind Liam and didn't want to talk. June did however say that Evelynn had light brown hair with lots of little ringlet curls.
She said that Liam was for sure a talker, but was confused that he kept saying the name Sara over and over. At some point Liam also was talking and joking with a man, but we couldn't figure out who he was. June thinks he might ahve died from some form of cancer, possibly throat she was thinking. Dereck's grandpa died of cancer this past year. He actually was really sick and in the hospital but still came to Liam, his first grandsons, funeral. She did mention something about Germany, but that was a little vague. I am also a little sad that if this is all for real and my Liam is coming back, what about Evelynn? I did mention to her that I wasn't carrying Max though, but about the only thing she responded to related to Max at all was that she saw a long distance between me and him and she wondered if my carrier lived far away-very true.
I'm still just not sure what to make of this. I do write a lot of personal information on my blog. She could get a lot of info about me and my babies off of it if she wanted, but what about the whole part with Lori and Gene then? I have never wrote about them before. I can't imagine she is that good of a guesser. I tried to be vague with my answers to most of her questions because I didn't want to give out too much info for her to try and work with, not to mention I just don't know a lot about my relatives. In the same regards though, I wanted more answers from her besides vague ones, like they miss you or care about you, because that tells me nothing.
What do you all think about Mediums?
What about if you post some fake information and see if she mentiones it in the next session then... ? That way you will know. She could find the information about your family through some ancestry database, too... However I strongly believe that there are things that we will never understand and it doesn't mean it's not true. I have never used medium myself and I do believe in the power and skills they have, for sure !ReplyDelete
I probably won't have another session. I had just had to check it out just to see what she'd say. Not sure what type of fake info I would write anyway.Delete
Wow ! I honestly don't know if I believe in mediums but how could she have just guessed what she told you? She knew their names.ReplyDelete
I think they are dangerous. There is a spiritual world all around us. Satan wants to kill, steal and destroy. Mediums are a tool of Satan. Your babies are in heaven, safe in Jesus arms.ReplyDelete
I must say that as harsh as Anonymous sounds I agree with him/her. I have been tempted to use a medium but have refrained from opening those doors.ReplyDelete
True "mediums"(those that communicate with the "dead" and the spirits, which in actual fact are really demons) are part of the occult and the dark side of the spiritual world (a dangerous place you don't want to dabble in; a door you don't want to open)and the others are just phonies and fakes, just trying to swindle people,telling them what they want to hear while suckering them out of their $$$.ReplyDelete
Oh fiddle faddle. If all things are possible through God, then so are mediums. What about all of the prophets? I'm not saying that these mediums are prophets, but it is recorded in the Bible (if you are speaking from that faith) that God bestows this type of knowledge and intuition and gift to certain people, and can use it for good. Is giving comfort to a grieving mother the work of Satan? I think not.ReplyDelete
thank you for that. Is someone telling me that my babies dying was part of God's plan bringing me comfort? Not really, actually makes me more angry. Whether this was real or not, it did bring me a sense of comfort.Delete
I am a different person than the commenter above. I've been quietly following your blog and sending you good thoughts but I have to speak up. The "medium" researched you and cleverly confused some small aspects because if she was too "spot-on" you would become suspicious. There ARE people with extraordinary gifts but they don't try and profit from them off of other people's pain. I wish you only peace and joy.ReplyDelete
I'm not sure about mediums but the internet can tell someone anything they needed to know. I hope that she brought you comfort as that is all that matters. I do not think that you going to a medium would cause you to be meddling with satan as some of these other posters said. Have you seen long island medium? She is always spot on.ReplyDelete
I have wanted to see Long Island Medium but haven't been able to yet. I think there are all kinds of crazy things that happen in this world and I also doubt that me speaking with one medium is opening the gates to Satan in my life.Delete
I don't know what I believe about mediums; I have never thought that much about them. I do think your babies are safe in heaven, but I don't think there is anything dangerous or occult about trying to see or communicate with them (through a medium, nature or pretty much in whatever way you are able to feel their loving presence).ReplyDelete
I have been to a medium also and it was an amazing experience and pretty darn accurate. I think mediums genuinely want to help us heal by sending us messages from our loved ones.ReplyDelete
I have been to a medium also and it was an amazing experience and very accurate. I think mediums genuinely want to help is heal by sending us messages from our loved ones that have crossed over.ReplyDelete
I don't know what to think in regards to mediums, but even if she did read your blog and that's how she knew all that information she was still right when she told you Liam and Evelynn are together in heaven. When reading what was told to you I could even picture Evelynn holding on to her brother while sucking her thumb. I do know this I am anxious for Max to be born and even more so now because wouldn't it be crazy if he was born with a mark under his right eye?ReplyDelete
Honestly, I don't believe in mediums. Of course, I don't believe in heaven either. For me, Aidan is gone. I will never see him again, and he does not 'see' me. Sometimes I feel like a bad dead baby mother for this not bothering me...but of all the things that make me sad about Aidan's death, the fact that I don't believe he exists on a higher plane isn't one of them. I feel sad he died. I feel sad he isn't here. I feel sad that he never got to be what he could have been and that we will never know him. But I'm not sad that he doesn't exist somewhere else. For me, he just doesn't. The necklace that I wear in memory of him says it all "I carry your heart, I carry it in my heart". I believe Aidan is nowhere else but in the memory of those who loved him.ReplyDelete
BUT...if the medium comforted you, and gave you what you were looking for, or helped you in anyway...then she did a good thing. Positive, non-destructive things that make you feel better in the midst of so much tragedy are never bad. In the end, it doesn't matter if she is right or wrong, or real or fake. If you were comforted, then that is real enough.
Plus if I'm wrong, and our babies are somewhere else, the place where Liam and Evelynn are sounds peaceful and loving.
I've contemplated going/reaching out to a medium since we lost Jack. My cousin in the UK wrote me a email a few months after we lost Jack and she had recently been to a psychic/medium who had mentioned not only Charlie, the daughter she miscarried many years ago, but also a little boy named Jack who was new there.ReplyDelete
I don't know what I believe. I know I believe in a heaven and I know that whatever heaven is, is exactly where our babies are. I believe they continue to exist in some form, forever. I have to believe it. I'm not sure I could survive if I didn't believe we would be reunited one day.
This specific medium you spoke with... She sounds a little suspect. I agree with Emily on the idea of them bringing you some relief and peace. I do believe in mediums- Long Island Medium seems legitimate to me. She also seems like a nice person, despite her excessive use of ozone-damaging hairspray. I think she's in it for the right reason and I wouldn't hesitate to sit down with her for even a second.
In other news, 30w3 is incredible and I can not wait for Max to be here. I love him already.
I just wouldn't trust it with your blog and all the time she had to research. Even if you make your blog private and try again, there will be information like obituaries that you just can't erase off the internet.ReplyDelete
I would try another medium. Do your research in advance to find a good one and don't give the medium time to research you. If my babies died, I would want to do this, to know if their spirits still existed in some way. To see how they were and to let them know that I was sorry and loved them.
I'm a born skeptic. I'm on the train of whatever makes you feel closer to your babies. I don't think there is any satan or occult or whatever connected to these "mediums", but I do think there are plenty out there just to make a buck without being legit. Hell, I'm not sure if any are legit.ReplyDelete
But one thing I don't appreciate is when others comment on your blog that you write in honor of your babies about it being God's plan and that anything out of that is from satan. Pisses me off. I'm Christian in that I believe there is a God who created the universe and our babies are gifts from God, but I don't believe he takes them away or has this grand plan that some should suffer or whatever.
It makes me super angry when others say crap like that. Your babies are yours alone and what happened is not okay and not part of some better plan. Bah.
Anyway, I am a little skeptical about you having a blog that you detail quite clearly and that the medium said she planned to research you and knew all the info. Seems like she may have stumbled here. Either way, it's how you feel. If it made you feel closer to Liam and Evelynn, no one is there to judge.
I know you are hurting and want to do anything you possibly can to ease the pain. I cannot imagine the grief of losing two precious children. I would encourage you to seek solace from a source that is trustworthy. Choose that which is genuine, in your best interests, has long term value, and is not merely a set up for making money. Look to someone who is powerful, loving, gracious, compassionate, and tenderhearted, someone who also knows the pain of losing a child in a horrific, unfair way. The comfort available from someone who truly knows all about you and who longs to reassure you of the well being and tender care being given to Liam and Evelyn is the one who can give you the assurance of your joyful reunion with them someday in their heavenly home. There is a verse in the book of Psalm chapter 34:18 that says God is close to the broken hearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit. I have written before, recommended a book or two, and follow your blog to see how you are doing. Please contact me if you would like to talk more. I promise not to preach, only listen, and help you best I can with any questions you might have. In response to a comment about prophets and mediums I agree that God does use prophets and empowers them but I Samuel chapter 28 is a story which clearly shows a difference between the two.ReplyDelete
I'm intrigued by the idea of mediums and I don't think you are inviting satan into your life by talking with one. You are doing the best you can to find peace.ReplyDelete
I remember at one of my grief groups, I started crying because I just didn't feel certain about what I believed and another mom there said to me, "Wherever your baby is, she's ok. You're the one who has to struggle, but know that she is ok." It helps me still to remember that. As hard as it is for us, as much as we want them here, I do believe our babies are safe and warm and loved, wherever they are.